talking
to carol
I talk to the press all the time, especially to 'zines and webmags that
focus on sex and culture. These are links and reprints from some
of those
interviews.
Source:
The Good Vibrations Gazette, Fall 2003. Interview questions by Sarah
Burgundy. Used by permission.
Congratulations on the re-release of Leather Daddy and the Femme! Tell
us
about how it ended up getting reissued. What did you change in the new
edition?
CQ: The
Leather Daddy and the Femme went out of print pretty fast in its
Cleis edition -- not because people weren't buying it, but because at
that
moment, the publishing industry was starting to undergo some harsh changes,
and the book got caught in the middle. Big bookstores, particularly chains,
order books and then if they don't sell quickly, they send them back
to the
warehouse and don't pay for them. Some publishers get the books back
from
storage and send them out again. But many copies of LD&F -- I'll
never know
exactly how many -- were exiled into a warehouse and destroyed. You can
imagine how I felt! And all the while I was hearing from bookstores in
Boston and Madison and all over the place, wanting to order it. Cleis
let
the rights revert back to me, so I brought the project to Down There
Press -- which is, of course, the publishing company Good Vibrations
owns. I
knew DTP would take good care of the book, and this way its sales directly
support Good Vibes.
Plus, I
had always wanted the cover to have a sexy leather daddy on it,
collaged with a sexy femme. For whatever reason, Cleis chose not to do
that,
but Leigh at Down There Press was very open to having my web designer,
Kristin J. Herrera, do the artwork, and I got permission from the Tom
of
Finland Foundation to use a genuine Tom leather daddy! Now a prospective
reader who doesn't know the gist of the story -- a bisexual femme who
cross-dresses as male to lure gay male leather daddies -- can look at
the
cover and get a hint about the gender-bending and pansexual contents
of the
novel. I also included a few chapters Cleis didn't publish in the first
edition, including a couple where the characters have long conversations
about sexual orientation and gender identity. Cleis thought those chapters
were too "talky" for a sexy book - but, as I say in the new
introduction," No sex I ever had existed outside of questions of who I was for having
it... Since most people fuck within the context of relationships and
sexualities, I've put that material back in." Judging from reader
response,
I made the right call. An important element of The Leather Daddy and
the
Femme is the
way the characters become family for each other, so it's also a book
that
explores poly relationships, not just gender-bending and kinky sex.
How do think
the book has been accepted now, with the reprint, as opposed to
when it first came out? Do you feel like you have more of an audience
for it
now?
CQ: Lots
of people have told me they'd looked for the book without success (because
it was out of print for a while) -- they'd wanted to get copies
for
friends and lovers, which to me is a real endorsement, especially given
the
way having a "family of lovers" is important to the characters
in the book.
People have also said they've loaned it out and not gotten it back --
and,
while it's bad karma to book-borrowers, I think that speaks to the way
people feel about The Leather Daddy and the Femme. In the years since
it
first came out its reputation has spread, and I also think the
ever-more-comfortable way queer issues are discussed in the mainstream
has
made a bigger audience ready for this book. It's not a polarized thing
--
instead, the characters have purposely various, and often fluid, sexual
and
gender orientations. I think the public is getting more open to that,
and to
polyamory as well.
You also just came out with Five
Minute Erotica. Why just five minutes?
CQ: I know,
most of my erotica is at least ten! This was the idea of the
publisher, Running Press. They wanted to do a book of erotic "fast
fiction" that was especially focused on women. They initially
wanted me to write the
whole book, but I didn't have time; I negotiated to open it up and make
it
an anthology instead. Readers who know erotica will recognize many of
the
names in the table of contents, but there are also at least three writers
publishing erotica for the very first time, and there are also four couples
in the book! It's great for sharing quick erotic fantasies, especially
for
reading out loud. Most stories are only about 1000 words long.
Was it challenging
finding stories that were so short, but still engaging and erotic?
CQ: Honestly,
the greatest challenge was asking the fantastic group of
writers represented in 5 Minute Erotica to keep their stories on the
heterosexual and vanilla side. They are a diverse and sometimes kinky
group!
But I came to really appreciate this focus. There's not really enough
good
erotica aimed at mostly-heterosexual women, and the majority of the great
erotic anthologies being done are pansexual. Not everyone finds this
speaks
to them, and I really think there ought to be good erotica on the shelf
for
everyone.
A few of
the stories submitted weren't successful in taking me, as editor, into
the world the story presents. It has to be quickly and skillfully
sketched out or it's just, at that length, too sparse to warm up to.
And I
know women like their plot lines, their characterization. Many, many
women
enjoy erotica and porn most when they can get into the characters and
why
they're together. So the stories had to pass that test, and the test
of
making me (and, by extension, the reader) take a fast little trip into
the
story's reality.
You also
just released G Marks the Spot, an instructional video
about G-spot stimulation and female ejaculation. What was your favorite
part of making
the video?
CQ: It was
really interesting to write a script -- I had not done a whole
script before -- and I liked doing the "talking head" presentation.
But my
very favorite thing was being on set as a consultant, and getting to
be
right
there while the whole thing was made. Working with non-professional actors
on an explicit shoot is such a privilege -- people are doing something
amazing and often kind of scary, not something they do every day. They're
like poster children for Exhibitionism for the Shy! And it's really
wonderful to be there as they get more and more comfortable with each
other,
the set, the cameras, everything. My number one fave minute is when
Falicious gives up and yells, "Noooo! I can't ejaculate! I did it
last night
but I can't do it now!" And then five minutes later she and her
partner have
locked eyes, gotten frisky, and pretty soon she's doing it! It illustrates
performance anxiety (and getting over it) so perfectly, it's like we
scripted it.
As you know,
we hear from lot of women who want to learn how to ejaculate. Why do
you think female ejaculation is such a hot topic and sought-after
skill?
CQ: Well,
for a couple of reasons. Firstly, who wouldn't be intrigued by the
idea of an extra erogenous zone? Many women hear there's pleasure to
be had,
and they want to experience it. It's a great reason to go g-spot hunting.
And it's just a plus that ejaculation might be involved -- which I think
many women (and their partners) see as sort of a "proof of the pleasure," plus
of course it feels great. It breaks down the boundary a tiny bit between
how
females and males experience their sexuality, and many people really
welcome
that -- the "Men are from Mars, women are from Venus" thing
is a popular
social construction, but really it's very alienating to many people.
In some
cases, it becomes a kind of contest -- women who say, "I can squirt
farther
than you! I can ejaculate more!" I do not favor that view -- particularly
because I don't think science has established the vast, superior quantities
of ejaculate these women are bragging about. As I say on the DVD interview,
I really wish we could be making this film in ten years, because perhaps
then there will be much more conclusive information about female
ejaculation.
Here's the
second thing, and I actually have mixed feelings about it. I
think women and male partners are often very eager to find a vaginally-based
kind of orgasmic pleasure. Part of the hype around the g-spot -- I agree
with Betty Dodson about this, though not her total take on the subject
-- is
that it's a vaginal thing. And we are told by the culture that vaginal
sex
is the type a mature woman is supposed to have, no thanks to Dr. Freud,
and
women
often don't have as much vaginal pleasure as they wish they could --
because
they aren't turned on enough when intercourse begins, mainly. The irony
in
all this -- looking to the g-spot as a magical vaginal sex button --
is that
it's not well-stimulated during much intercourse. You still have to use
fingers or play with toys and get really turned on to make the most of
your
(or your partner's) g-spot.
As if this
all wasn't enough, you and your partner operate the Center for
Sex and Culture. Tell us about what this organization does.
CQ: Yes,
when I say I'm as sexual overachiever, people think I'm talking about
having sex all the time! -- but the reality is, I spend a lot of
that
time writing, lecturing, doing education. I think people in the US get
truly
awful sex education for the most part -- especially the sex ed provided
in
school -- and then they have to go out on their own to get better
information. The Center for Sex and Culture is an information resource
-- we
don't have a building yet, but when we do, it will have the largest
publicly-accessible sex library in the US, a sex-related archive (including
the papers of important sex writers, educators, and others), plus classes,
workshops, salons, and other events. We have our non-profit status and
have
spent this year getting organized, doing benefits, getting the word out,
and
storing donations in increasingly-stuffed storage units. We're looking
for a
space in San Francisco, so when people visit the Bay Area they can come
browse, do research, and take classes. If readers want to know more they
can
visit www.centerforsexandculture.com, where they will find our address
in
case they want to send us boxes of old porn, their granddad's sex novelties
from the '40s, or a check!
Any good thrift or estate sale scores you want to share?
CQ: You
know me so well, Sarah! Lots of people don't know that's my secret
vice -- going junking! And of course I'm especially into finding old
sex
stuff. My partner Robert and I have told all the local estate sale folks
that they shouldn't throw away the smut, because we'll buy it. In the
last
year we've gotten a set of cool black and white swinger photos from the
'50s; two tiny little keychain-sized telescopes with porn pictures inside
(that's what I mean by "your granddad's old stuff"); tourist
plates from
Greece, circa early '60s, with sex painting on them; and -- best of all
--
an old man's entire secret collection of bondage and transvestite porn!
He
had a ton of great stuff, too. It's all going to be view-able at the
Center
for
Sex and Culture. And of course we tune into eBay on a pretty regular
basis,
and we find great stuff there too.
Anything else?
CQ: Yes,
people who want to keep track of what I'm doing can visit my website,
www.carolqueen.com, where content - including a list of my readings
and workshops --changes every month at least. There's also a pretty full
bibliography there, at least of my work that's published in books. I
do stay
awfully busy! And as my old girlfriend Natalie used to say, "Carol,
I could
see if sex was your business. or your hobby. but everything?" You
know, to
me it's all just endlessly fascinating.
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